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r/Tennis Discussion (Monday, June 14, 2021)

r/Tennis Discussion (Monday, June 14, 2021)

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curtdawg01

Lots of comments about surfaces. I like a variety in playing style, but don't really like the instability on grass and clay in terms of footing. Since we have the ability to make hard courts fast as grass or slow as clay, would people like a hard court only world? But keeping different tournaments with different speeds to have variety?


jeffwingersballs

I would like it if there were less hardcourts.


lostinmoss

I think the instability is interesting. Clay can get some insane court coverage once people learn to slide, and seeing good footwork on grass is always nice. Along with that, there are factors of bounce height and variability which allow different playstyles to succeed. Having only hardcourt would be really boring in my opinion.


curtdawg01

That's what I'm saying, we can engineer the hard courts for higher and lower bounces, with safety of good footing. I'd say for every ball that someone slides to, they also miss one from changing direction and slipping.


lostinmoss

Yeah but thats what makes the game interesting - movement heavily changes the strategy on the courts. Most of the falls I've seen have not caused injury, (and none of the players have complained about injury concerns from either surface), so im all for the instability.


curtdawg01

I love that a tournament ended yesterday, that was pretty much made up of losers of RG. Basically a consolation bracket.


Omegatron64

What advice did the winner receive? ^(kidding I know you meant consolation)


curtdawg01

Lol whoops


Hyper1on

Looks like the Wimby final will have a full crowd, will be good to hear the noise https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/57473711


FlyReasonable6560

I find it really funny how Feliciano Lopez just starts randomly GOAT'ing at this tournament for a week and then nothing else after


Bubbly-Ordinary-1097

Do you remember Dustin Brown ?


FlyReasonable6560

Lol yes


Bubbly-Ordinary-1097

Nadal Kryptonite


yna_ari

I just found out Halep got engaged


thcm123

What? Source?


yna_ari

roumanian press. Even pictures with her wearing the ring😁


Bubbly-Ordinary-1097

Mazel Tov


anirudh1595

How did Aslan play today? Anyone?


slayer_of_potatoes

Bad, then okay, then good.


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This seems to be becoming a pattern for him lol


anirudh1595

Thanks. Glad he won, ngl


Schlok453

I know this sub has a problem with recency bias but I think Karatsev is definitely the favourite for Wimbledon now


slayer_of_potatoes

He's definitely won more grass court matches than anyone else in the last 20 minutes.


slayer_of_potatoes

Karatsev is undefeated in tour level grass court matches.


Big_Accident577

He fought as hard as he could. There is nothing to be ashamed of, Tabilo.


inkwisitive

The lion taking some time to get used to grass, he prefers the Savannah


EyreForceOne

God why I am as proud of Aslan Karatsev as if I birthed him from my own loins


slim13shady

😡Man you better shut your fuck🖕🏼up ok 🤬🤫Hey Stefanos 👋🏼🇬🇷🤡🤢 you want to look 👀 at me and talk? 🗣🦜 You have some rollies 🍬🤮and go emergency toilet 🚨🚑🚽💩 for five minutes ⏰🕰 and then you hit let 🎾⛔️🤦and you don't say sorry 🚫🙏🏼🙄and you think 💭you are good kid? 🤗😇🤣🤡 Look at me 👿🤧🥶 Heh, look at me, hah? 😤 You don't look at me 🥱🥸 He started it. 👉🏻 He started it. 🗣 He started it. 🐦 Yeah he started it. 😳🤣 He said bullshit Russian, 🐂💩🇷🇺 you think this is normal? 🧐🤦🏻‍♂️I answered him 😙😒 because he doesn't know 🤪🤤 how to fight 👊🏻🤜🏻🚫🤧He's a small kid 🙂👶🏼who doesn't know how to fight 😂🤡If he doesn't say anything 🙊🤐 I have no problem with him. 👍🏻🤙🏻😎🌊 But 👆🏼if he says something 👄with me and wants to fight 🤺🥷 he needs to do it.😤🥴


Big_Accident577

Whenever I see this, it's my obligation to give it an upvote.


Big_Accident577

STOP THE COUNT!


slayer_of_potatoes

Whenever someone says that, I think of a rampaging Dracula which must be stopped.


colby983

Thinking about building a grass court at my house. Probably can’t afford it though


ChertanianArmy

Well, at least it's better than Sinner.


Big_Accident577

The Lion awakens. Run for your life, Alejandro. ¡CORRE, MIERDA!


ChertanianArmy

On grass he's a white kitten at best.. the movement just isn't there


Big_Accident577

Granted, but it's Tabilo's first ATP match on grass (third overall)... and as a lucky loser.


ChertanianArmy

Karatsev has 4, all in 2015 ;)


slayer_of_potatoes

Karatsev has 5 (before today), he also played Wimbledon qualies in 2014.


Big_Accident577

🤝


Big_Accident577

Well, he has tried.


ManInGlasses

Aslan finally woke up, now pls hold


slayer_of_potatoes

Lion goes to Belgrade, eats goat. Lion goes to Paris, chokes on cabbage. Lion goes to London, struggles to digest grass.


TheThingyyyy00

Grass is boring.


riquelm

Unpopular opinion apparently


Big_Accident577

It speaks volumes when you look at Tabilo (24 y.o.) and see he is Chile's No. 2 in the ranking... at No. 171. And Jarry is making a comeback, but he's yet to be top 300.


lilerswhat

I'm sorry... like I hate to make such a controversial, never said before statement... but it is clearly apparent that... Grass is for cows.


Schlok453

Oh yeah well clay is for horses... or something


lilerswhat

Check your history. Clay is for dogs AND pigs. It's been known.


Schlok453

Karatsev can lose to anyone (not disrespecting Tabilo though, he's playing really well on first ATP match on grass)


ChertanianArmy

Did you expect something from a player who didn't play on grass for 6 years?


Big_Accident577

It's something he and his generation have in common.


Big_Accident577

¡Vamos, Tabilo!


TheThingyyyy00

Dude grass is nasty. It looks awkward when you can't slide or anything.


Pistefka

You can slide - onto your ass.


Big_Accident577

Well, I didn't expect Tabilo to remotely pose a threat to Karatsev, especially after losing to Troicki. Hope he can at least steal a set from the Lion.


evdrebot

Karatsev cruising on serve then decides to throw in a game where he hits every forehand in the net.


slayer_of_potatoes

What was that game, Aslan


zacharius55

Just realized that Novak might be in contention of getting the Roland Garros-Wimbledon double if he keeps this streak alive..unless of course Tennys can stop him...


Omegatron64

He's in contention for the Calendar Slam too haha - will be interesting to see who can stop him on grass and how he's feeling by time USO starts (since I firmly believe his performance there rests on his racquet barring circumstances like a Stanimal).


jeffwingersballs

Also the golden calendar slam. Only achieved by Steffi Graf.


ExoticSignature

Karatsev is Karatsev, really good on grass too. Coming to the net often and finishing those points with finesse


ChertanianArmy

There are many great tennis players but only one GOAT #Viktor Troicki. https://www.menstennisforums.com/attachments/viktor-troicki-0107-png.366021


superdankm8

wish there was a commentator for this Karatsev match


Mediocre-Credit-4170

Where are you watching it on? On tennis tv there is a commentator for it


neeltennis93

Was there one for The Korda match? I was watching it on tennis tv and didn’t hear one


Mediocre-Credit-4170

Yeah there was, you have to press the one that says “Monday live from Halle” that’s where the commentary is otherwise the other separate matches don’t have


superdankm8

T Plus


ExoticSignature

Isn't the match on the main Tennis Channel? And it has commentary too. Tennis +1 has the replay of the Sinner match.


Mediocre-Credit-4170

I think someone on here said it’s on tennis channel but I’m not 100% sure. I live in Australia so I don’t use those


thcm123

Looks like Tsit has withdrawn from Halle. Understandable.


TheThingyyyy00

It's on Tennis channel


ExoticSignature

Why is the Karatsev match not on Tennis Channel? Any links that work outside of US? Sportsbay and Utazmice doesn't work where I live.


colby983

It is now


ExoticSignature

Yeah, found it. I was looking at Plus and it wasn't there.


Schlok453

Introducing a player as a 'lucky loser' is very funny to me. Imagine someone doesn't know what it means, they would think the announcer was being really harsh.


aweap

Only 5 matches happened in Halle today?


riquelm

You simply love Viktor "Look at the mark" Troicki


slayer_of_potatoes

> James Keothavong is one of the best umpires you could possibly get -Anne Keothavong


Schlok453

A 39 year old beats a player called Illya in straights with one tiebreak


ExoticSignature

Feli and Roger have some camaraderie going


slayer_of_potatoes

Having won the tournament in 2019.


riquelm

Why is dr Ivo Karlovic not playing on grass now?


thombo-1

Feli Lopez has a lovely economical way of playing, you can see why he's adapted well as an older man.


ging289

Come On Sonego, GRUNTS EVERYWHERE


maddoge123

What's up with thiem? Do u guys think he has a chance to go deep at Wimbledon?


Dark_Vengence

He will be lucky to win two matches.


lostinmoss

He didn't really have a chance to go deep at Wimbledon even when he was playing well. Its gonna take him a while to build back up his confidence, and I expect a few more early round losses.


maddoge123

;((


colby983

Queens Cub has one of the best backdrops on tour.


Schlok453

Hang on I thought Troicki retired?


zombiezebra1990

He has announced his retirement.


colby983

Feli gonna defend his title


lobsterFritata

Does anyone have recommendations for pros and/or clubs that help put together USTA teams in the socal area? (is there a better place to ask this)? I'm a 3.5-4.0 (self-rated) player looking for coaching/getting into more match play opportunities


neeltennis93

Are you in Orange County? I know a coach I can recommend to you for private lessons. I don’t think he puts together USTA teams tho.


lobsterFritata

I'm in sgv but could I pm you for more info?


neeltennis93

Sure


cooldude1991

Is there a weekly tennis thread where I can post some racquet related questions?


Omegatron64

On one hand sad because Agut lost and his Wimbledon run will be tough to defend, but on the other hand...KORDA KORDA KORDA


Sophony

What a rout of RBA in the tiebreak! good grass-court win for Korda!


hopez11

Yeah Korda is winning Wimbledon you are right guys. Plus his outfit is really cool


neeltennis93

Ok wouldn’t go that far but the guy is really good. Great top 10 win Edit: I’m dumb and can’t sense sarcasm


hopez11

/s


neeltennis93

I’m dumb.


Darius0995

Perfect tiebreak from Korda, just absolute perfection. 😍😍😍


Daviderer5

Marchenko, Troicki and Lopez all playing at the same time. 2012 here we are


TheThingyyyy00

Agut is one if my favorite players. Hope he can win.


Mister_Lizard

BBC trying to keep the same commentary team going for longer than Feli's slam streak.


Mister_Lizard

Feli 🐐


Darius0995

OKAY, MAYBE HE'LL JUST MAKE THE FINAL.. BUT HE'LL MAKE IT COMPETITIVE


lostinmoss

In before he gets dismantled by Deliciano in R1


Schlok453

The last final played at Queen's was between Feli Lopez and Gilles Simon. It feels like tennis has changed a lot since then.


Mister_Lizard

IDK, Feli looks the same and is continuing to kick arse.


Schlok453

Somehow Feli is one of the only late-thirties players still looking reasonably good on the court


Omegatron64

That one was a bit of an odd final, given the final prior was Novak Djokovic vs Marin Cilic. Unlikely that Lopez will repeat, though he loves this tournament (Shapo is a tough out). Simon is also playing Halle this year (as he did the prior two years).


lostinmoss

And the one before that was Feli Lopez vs Cilic! Continuity.


costnersaccent

Chief Twat Inverdale inviting Norrie to join him in snarking at how long Djokovic and Nadal bounce the ball before serving. Tell you what dickheads, when you’ve won 39 slams between you, maybe then we’ll ask you how the game should be played? (I get that some people find it annoying etc but Inverdale just boils my piss)


curtdawg01

As long as they are in the time limit, bounce as much as they want. But also, rules are rules, gotta follow them. Just because you are a 19-20x slam winners doesn't mean you shouldn't get a warning, then penalties, if you keep going over. Also you shouldn't ever be holding up the server when you're returning.


Schlok453

It always seems like Inverdale is talking specifically to non-tennis fans. I get that commentators try to aim for a broad audience but he lowers the tone too often.


costnersaccent

Some of the audience did cheer at it but I guess you get idiots everywhere. The thing which really bugs me about it is that you get people including him praising their mental strength, then mocking a method that they use to focus their strength. When Novak starts bouncing you can just seeing him gather himself; it’s pure theatre, you’re literally watching one of the most mentally strong athletes exhibit this attribute, then you have this nobody go “LOL 2 MANY BOUNCES LMFAO”


smalliebigs69

it's just one of those things like grunting where I'm like "get over it by now." no one is original when pointing those things out.


23HomieJ

What a nice passing shot from korda


Darius0995

KORDA IS WINNING WIMBLEDON, I DON'T FUCKING CARE! WHAT A PLAYER!


23HomieJ

Come on korda hold


memelonso

Yeahhhh come on sebbie Korda


23HomieJ

Korda saves a break point


Imbeast1

I know grass is more expensive and difficult to maintain than other surfaces but wouldn’t it be nice to have at least one Masters 1000 event on the grass.


margueritelle

2 years without grass and now we only get 3 weeks of it :(


SKYE-OPTC

yea, they should upgrade halle to a 1000


jeffwingersballs

It should be London imo.


SKYE-OPTC

halle is better and deserves it more


jeffwingersballs

I disagree. I think it's the opposite.


lethalizer

Would only be feasible if you moved Wimby 2 weeks or so further. Not sure they would like that idea. Other solution would be moving RG back and that's even less feasible cause of Paris' relationship with rain and all.


lostinmoss

Could also just put it after wimbledon


lethalizer

Hm, that would be interesting. Either way a clay masters would have to get removed tho I think, or a hard court one. Basically leaves no rest for the top players who want to attend said masters. Like, for this season, imagine a Masters event one week post Wimbledon. Would prolly have to end it by July 25th, and Rogers Cup starts basically 2 weeks after that. Would be hell.


lostinmoss

My (kind of terrible plan) was remove the Paris masters, and add a grass masters near the end of the season. This would become the optional masters instead of Monte Carlo.


lethalizer

Uh, yeah no offense but that would be insane lol.


Pistefka

Surely a Master's event (with better income and funding) could better afford to maintain grass courts than an ATP250 event?


Arftacular

RBA always gives me Arnold from Total Recall vibes with that vein popping out of his forehead.


slayer_of_potatoes

Interested to see how Aslan does on grass later. In theory, he should be right at home since there's a lot of grass in the Savannah.


cooldude1991

Korda is a better grass court player than clay, hard?


lostinmoss

Probably not, I'd wait to see him play a more power player on the grass before calling that


neeltennis93

I know he said in an interview, clay used to be his favorite but now it’s hard court. So that should translate well to grass


Sophony

Korda plays such mature tennis, I love it


jeffwingersballs

And he looks like he's 45.


onyxrose81

Poor thing got most of his Dad’s face...Pete looked 45 in his 20s/30s as well. The Korda girls got some of their mom’s features to balance them out.


neeltennis93

For real.


neeltennis93

Good god Korda. Way to make a statement in the second set


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ChocolateSnowflake

Why? The doubles doesn’t mean much to them, it’s basically practice.


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Successful-Ad8324

Yay hurkacz and auger-aliassime won the doubles. Funny how they're playing against each other tomorrow in singles


PIZZAspartan442

The pair of Russians they just beat are playing each other too... hate it when that happens


hopez11

Good first set from Sebi. Did good to break after getting broken back.


neeltennis93

Yep. Many young players with talent would have a hard time getting over that. Especially against a top 10 player


Grouchy_Square

How did Roger look today?


mattrts

Like he's still adjusting to grass from clay


jannar24

Massive grass court skills from Korda, very impressive


neeltennis93

KORDAAA WHAT A GAME!!!


zombiezebra1990

As expected, clay god Norrie is struggling on grass against one of the best grass courters in ARV.


Leotabbycat

So I see Andy is playing Benoit Paire tomorrow. Is Paire good on grass, or... does it not really matter with him?


Grouchy_Square

Think paire had MP or close against Roger on grass in 2019 so he aight maybe


PIZZAspartan442

Big serve, big backhand, comes in to the net a lot... the only way he's giving Murray any sort of challenge is if there's a crowd though


Imbeast1

Actually think the grass suits Korda’s game very well. He hits the ball pretty flat off both wings and his serve is more effective.


neeltennis93

Am I missing something regarding the flat strokes ? I see him hitting with topspin every time minus the slices


lostinmoss

He is hitting topspin, but not a particularly high amount. Most players still hit topspin, even when we say it's flat


neeltennis93

Ahhh makes sense. So it’s all about relative topsin


DinisPereira_

The only players who can hit 100% flat consistently are isner, karlovic and opelka. Because their strike zone is above the net. All the others have to put at least a bit of topspin


neeltennis93

That fucking tweeter lob tho


PIZZAspartan442

What a way for Korda to break back... down 0-40, then hits a tweener lob and perfect half volley dropper, both for winners


neeltennis93

Great sign of maturity for a young player. He was up a break, lost it, and broke serve again going after being down 0-40, against a top 10 player? WITH A TWEENER LOB! That. Is. Not. Easy.


Omegatron64

Agut broken again, this time from 40-0 up yikes


jannar24

RBA broken after he was 40:0 up...


UofLForTheWin

Korda gets the break! Back in front! Also as andycake87 said, that tweener was just *chef's kiss*


andycake87

Did Korda just pull off one of the greatest tweeners of all time? Anyone see that?


neeltennis93

I did. Couldnt believe what I saw


Sophony

GOAT tweener lob


UofLForTheWin

You can tell that Korda isn't all that comfortable on grass yet, hopefully it'll come with experience and time


mattrts

He's got the game for it though. Takes the ball early and serves big


UofLForTheWin

Definitely has the game for it, once he gets more experience under his belt, he's gonna be a huge threat on grass. Hell, he already is (because of his game), RBA may be in rough form ATM but he definitely isn't a slouch on grass. The fact the Korda is hanging in there (and actually leading currently) against RBA on grass, despite only having had one prior match on grass, is a testament to that.


neeltennis93

Until that tweener lob


slayer_of_potatoes

[My feelings towards Djokovic these days](https://gfycat.com/delicioushelpfulboutu-ron-burgundy-vince-vaughn-will-ferrell)


jeffwingersballs

Just FYI for North American ATP fans, YES network has matches on until noon.


GGAnnihilator

bett1 should have surrounded the Berlin court with mattresses, like what they did in Cologne last year.


ChocolateSnowflake

That looked so comfy. And they had a dog. All tournaments should have a dog.


henrydajones

Missed the sinner match. But losing two tiebreaks seems ridiculous for him already haha


Ashru987

He failed to serve out both sets as well 😓


henrydajones

Hope the expectation doesnt get to him at all


cooldude1991

Discussion today so lull. People here today are the true tennis fans (that's what I'll pretend to think lol)


onyxrose81

I’m so wrung out from yesterday. Still processing that, lol.


UofLForTheWin

Always like this here when there isn't a grandslam on, hell even Master 1000s don't garner that big of a comment count. Personally, I sort of prefer it this way. Maybe I'm just weird haha


thombo-1

Same. Only time today when it got remotely tribal was when Federer appeared (both the fans and haters!)