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r/Tennis Discussion (Tuesday, June 22, 2021)

r/Tennis Discussion (Tuesday, June 22, 2021)

Meecs18

Watson was 4-1 40-0 up in the deciding set and still managed to lose? This is Serena 2015 all over again ffs


cooldude1991

Any update on Thiem injury?


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Lol.


squiremoore1

Was Eastbourne started by vikings back in the day or what's the story?


Hydroborator

This is hilarious


lostinmoss

Isnt it just sponsored by viking cruises


Ada-casty

Can someone tell me what happened to thiem during the match? I’ve read he suffered wrist injury. Did he fall? Turned his wrist in a funny way?


Rather_Dashing

Looked like an ordinary forehand hit to me, but he said he heard a crack. Video: https://youtu.be/dnEbS6xmiLA?t=171


chrysoberyyll

Tried to hit a forehand and his hand went the wrong way ..


neeltennis93

Ugh tiafoe. Come on man.


GhostofTeholnbugg

Trust me saying that won't work, I've been trying for years now


neeltennis93

You think Korda’s got potential?


GhostofTeholnbugg

Yes, much moreso than Tiafoe. Simple, clean strokes, strong serve, calm and focused mentality. His career W-L is already the best of any active American, just edging out Isner. Not saying he's gonna be like... a multi-slam winner or something for sure, but I think he'll be at least a seed in most slams for a big chunk of his career.


ParfaitPleasant

Looks like Kasatkina is the only Russian left in Eastbourne


ParfaitPleasant

Great match between Gauff and Mertens. Mertens always gives nail biters.


GhostofTeholnbugg

Really nice victory for Gauff too. They've both been top players this year.


Omegatron64

Another day, another twist in the Tiafoe rollercoaster. Meanwhile, epic win for Gauff.


Big_booty_ho

Hell yeah coco Such a fighter


razorsharp3000

Winning a tight match against a solid opponent like Mertens is really impressive, especially after eating a bagel in the first set.


aweap

That too after losing the first set 0-6.


chrysoberyyll

Not trying to be mean, but saying ‘bagel’ on this subreddit means the set went 6-0!


aweap

That's an edited comment. Initially the commenter's sentence ended at the word 'impressive', so I added to what they had written before. Of course I know what's a bagel here. ☺️


chrysoberyyll

Ah, oops! Sorry!


thelastattemptsname

Coco really turned it around after getting bagelled in the opening set. Mertens had so many chances but couldn't hold on. Will be interesting to see if Gauff can carry her clay success in to the grass season.


Tigerkem

Man Coco continues to impress me. She just doesn't give up.


bigtice

Wonderful comeback for Gauff -- she looked completely out of it after that first set.


folkmore89

Coco’s mental toughness is outstanding


Neverslept2mins

It’s great mental, I remember people saying she was weak after breaking her racket in Roland , but ignoring the comeback she tried to make after resetting herself.


FreeTimers

Great comeback from Coco!


madisonrees

Only Coco’s second tournament on grass since going pro


neeltennis93

Those goddamn seagulls


GhostofTeholnbugg

BWEH knows https://twitter.com/AndreyRublev97/status/1407415725493571590


aweap

Been such a long time since I saw a half decent match from Riske. Finally a true grass court tennis player! Real test would be next round though when she could potentially face Sabalenka...


shyaminator96

Tiafoe’s movement is so awkward


Hydroborator

Most things he does are awkward. Not in Gulbis territory but just interesting to watch and ask, wtf was that?


neeltennis93

If you’re talking about His strokes I completely agree


shyaminator96

Both his strokes and the way he runs to the ball lol


Omegatron64

Meh, as one of the longtime Khachanov supporters I think there are plenty of losses to be disappointed about this year - the bagel from Delbonis and the double baguette by Norrie on clay, for instance - but given those, I honestly don't read too much into a loss to Lopez in Bo3 grass. We'll see how Wimbledon goes though.


Mister_Lizard

Feli Goatpez on grass is no joke.


tennisspeechie

Karen is a mess right now and it doesn’t seem to be getting better…. This keeps up he’s going to have a rankings crash like his fellow Paris masters champ Sock.


DJTbereasy

He is worse than Sock right now


Omegatron64

Absolute hyperbole lol, none of his losses this year bar Ebden and Norrie in Lyon are even close to Sock's. Sock was in a spiral - went 13-30 for 2018-2020 on the main tour, while Khachanov has been 65-57 for 2019-2021.


TDJansen

Gauff holding on!


razorsharp3000

https://twitter.com/D_Yastremska/status/1407380496330412032?s=20 Apparently Yastremska is completely cleared of any wrongdoing and is free to play again 😮


DJTbereasy

Karen Khachanov is the worst player on tour


christophlieber

just heard an interview from domi‘s personal physio on the radio. domi twisted his hand and heard/felt a crack (knacksen in austrian-german). no one‘s ruling out a possibly bad injury yet. seems bad.


Pistefka

knacksen - he has knackered his hand.


YIV33

How did that happen?


christophlieber

i honestly have no idea. it happened during a FH but i didn‘t catch it initially.


rasdabess

It wasnt that weird of a hit or anything. Just dogshit unlucky


razorsharp3000

Riske on grass…


Omegatron64

She is defending those Wimbledon QF points, after all!


im_infected

Why do the ball boys/girls stand on the service line during changeover at Eastbourne?


ExtendedVacation

I was at Eastbourne in person today watching the Swiatek-Watson match and to be honest it looked like she slipped/lost balance. I don’t think it was intentional. Iga needs to improve her first serve, I know conditions were quite windy, but there were loads of opportunities where she could’ve finished in two sets


1ceberglettuce13

Yeah it looked like she was heading towards the left but couldn’t find her balance


turbochoco

was wimbledon qualifying always bo3?


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jeffwingersballs

I don't know how much sense that makes.


Chosen1gup

R1/2 are bo3, R3 is bo5


jannar24

Only the final round is best of 5


chrysoberyyll

Are Wimbledon seeds already locked?


chrysoberyyll

Mostly speaking for the women — like if Sabalenka happened to take Simona’s spot at #3 this week, would Simona be moved over to Ashleigh’s side of the draw?


ChocolateSnowflake

Seeds were taken from this Monday’s rankings.


chrysoberyyll

Ah, thank you! I was hoping Ashleigh and Simona would get on opposite sides :]


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mkl122788

Yeah, but that is also why this win is so big. Extra match play on grass for the youngsters is so important.


Salmabutnotsalma

Awkward handshake between Pegula and Siniakova. BTW Siniakova's outfit looks so cool


hopez11

What a win for Katerina!! Absolutely magnificent play in that last game


chrysoberyyll

My only consolation today is that Simona has been posting a lot of Wimbledon pictures


Big_booty_ho

Is Gauff a bad grass player or does she just have a massive hangover from her glorious clay season. These youngins are really struggling on grass 😩


TCPlusSux

Didn't she have her first breakthrough by getting to the 4th round of Wimbledon? I think shes okay on grass, just having that hangover as you said. It also doesn't help that shes playing Mertens.


Hydroborator

Also, this court looks fast or maybe it's just my delusional brain


Hydroborator

Massive hangover. Not sure she would be ready for a Wimbledon deep run but she has surprised me this far


Droitdutravail15

I mean where you they get the experience from? Most of the young players never played a tournament on grass before..


Schlok453

Very iffy from Swiatek with the racket tap, of course the commentator completely ignores it


uma100

She did this all through out RG, I hadn't seen her play before so I was really surprised, its JV stuff


Neverslept2mins

Why don’t her opponents say anything if they are getting distracted seems weird to me if they are getting distracted and don’t tell the referee what she is doing. Are her opponents scared of her that they won’t say anything?


Schlok453

It's up to the umpire to make the call, I don't know why Watson didn't say anything


Neverslept2mins

Ah okay I was asking earlier in the thread whether the umpire or player calls it. Also weird if it happens as often as people say that the umpire doesn’t say anything. I’m pretty new to tennis, does tennis have problems with corruption like other sports like boxing?


jannar24

Do you know at which point it happened? I had to missed it


Schlok453

It was at 15-30 in the last game, gave her match point


smalliebigs69

Hard to tell if it was incidental or not. I've seen Iga before do the "which side am I going to" fakeout, which IMO is fair game. Could have been doing that here and slipped.


jannar24

Exactly my thoughts, she's doing the fake thing often and it's inside the rules but the tap on the floor is distracting


Schlok453

Found the clip in a comment below [https://twitter.com/szaczn/status/1407397059079122956](https://twitter.com/szaczn/status/1407397059079122956) Looks bad


wessexcato

Ooft, I've seen people punished for less.


Omegatron64

E: Editing since I thought the issue was the jerky movement but it's her racquet hitting the ground at 0:06. Still a bit tough to tell given the body motion.


wessexcato

It's not the movement that I've seen called up as hinderance, it is the hitting your racket on the floor before your opponent hits the ball.


Omegatron64

Ah gotcha, thanks for clarifying. Edited my comment.


smalliebigs69

you edited your comment, so you must know it's less than certain lol. generally think the benefit of the doubt is the way to go in situations like this.


Schlok453

It looked completely intentional to me that's all I'm saying


cyanide44

Anybody have video footage of the shot Thiem hurt his wrist?


chrysoberyyll

I don’t know if anyone showed you by now but they have a clip here: https://youtu.be/dnEbS6xmiLA


cyanide44

Blocked footage


jannar24

Mertens just served Coco a bagel, damn


mkl122788

Eastbourne is so disgustingly stacked as a tournament, I am constantly amazed by the matchups from the very beginning.


gkmaster21

Every match feels like a slam 4R or 3R at least. One the most stacked WTA 500 of the year.


Campachoocho0

Gauff loses the first set to Mertens 6-0. Is she okay?


starboys23

Y’all want butter or cream cheese?


TDJansen

what the hell is Gauff doing?


gkmaster21

She is a clay player. Her winning matches in Wimbledon a couple years ago against old Venus and clay mugs won't change that. She needs to improve a lot on grass.


slayer_of_potatoes

Losing


monsieurartois

Siniakova-Pegula would be a great match but for all the errors.


NaifGs

Great comeback iga, happy she battled out.


Auzou

How bad did wrist injury look for Thiem? Did it look serious or more precautionary retirement?


Ashru987

He seemed to be in a lot of pain. He told the physio he heard a crack. The physio put a lot of tape on it but I don’t think it helped.


christophlieber

pretty serious tbh


Kiwiii_nights

apparently heavy bandages and someone claimed Thiem said he heard a crack. so not great, but we don't know the full details yet


caramelatte90

The crack was the sound of my heart breaking into a million fragments.


Kiwiii_nights

me too


hopez11

What a hold for Katerina, 1 game away from the match now


gkmaster21

Okay, now I can see this result unleashing Iga like that match against Krejcikova in Rome. She was 2 breaks down in the final set here and she won against a good grass player. Her 1st pro match win on grass as well. She will play against Kasatkina now, who made final last week in Birmingham. Another good test before Wimbledon.


Salmabutnotsalma

Domi and Zvonareva retired due to injuries damn you tennis


Viks101

Iga comes through finally, she will play Dasha in the next round. Both massive Rafa fans and two of my absolute favorites, I am pumped for their match.


NaifGs

i already love them both, gonna be a great match. other side is also great with ons and penko.


slowjuve

I hope Domi's wrist injury isn't something so serious 😰


Big_booty_ho

Is Iga always this shaky on grass? Such a weird match from her. She looked completely lost half the time


jannar24

It his her first win on grass on tour, 3rd match overall. She just needs more experience


Big_booty_ho

That makes sense. Her return game was absolutely horrendous for a top player. She was making Watson look like Isner


smalliebigs69

she has big windups, and on the grass serves are gonna come up on her quicker. she'll have to adjust.


jasonkochel

Yep. So many of the rising young stars have so little grass experience this year due to last year being canceled.


Kiwiii_nights

I feel like every time I've seen Iga visibly frustrated she lost the plot and went on to lose, so this is a nice change of pace


Viks101

She was also very much frustrated against Krejcikova in Rome- she even faced match point but managed to come through. She is still improving all the time.


thelastattemptsname

The first round match in Rome was similar to this. She was in a worse situation in that, it wasn't her best tennis but she hung on and managed to win turning around her clay season. Muchova was the opponent in that match.


jannar24

You probably mean her match against Krejcikova in the 3rd round


thelastattemptsname

Yes. Got my Czechs confused as they are all doing so well


jannar24

Iga was crying, first win on grass means a lot to her


musicalchad

Wait what I tuned out of the Thiem match, wtf happened??


ChocolateSnowflake

Hurt his wrist on a forehand. Didn’t look good.


musicalchad

Nooooo


_qazdr_

Yessss iga that was stress


Salmabutnotsalma

Iga is so emotional oml


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Anck-Su-Namun93

Yeah, saw that too, im not quite sure if it was intentionally, Watson was cool with it though, did not said anything


jasonkochel

Saw that too. As a huge Iga fan I'm choosing to think she was trying to change direction abruptly and the racquet slam was accidental. Would be interested to see a replay. Watson didn't seem offended.


hopez11

Do you have a clip? Because she did something similar against kontaveit in RG and I thought it was accidental. But if she did it again maybe it wasn't :(


SilentCaveat

[https://twitter.com/szaczn/status/1407397059079122956](https://twitter.com/szaczn/status/1407397059079122956) Looks blatant tbh


TomGle

Yeah that doesn't look good unfortunately


jasonkochel

Gotta admit that doesn't look good. She was doing a quick left-right-left dance but IDK that the racquet tap was part of it 🤔


Neverslept2mins

So does the referee have to cal hindrance or does the Watson have to call it?


NieThePiet

how on the earth she has turned this around.


Neverslept2mins

Ooh possibly another Watson-Swiatek tiebreaker. Edit: I was wrong, thought Iga was gonna lose but she pulled through, nice.


Schlok453

Haha what is the fucking point. All my favourite players are losing, injured or on the verge of retirement (or of course the triple whammy).


FirestarG42

Look at my flair :(


Kiwiii_nights

RIP


guinguiny

me too 😢


hopez11

Oof, rough times


rasdabess

Not a good day for thiem fans. I was so excited to watch him play too


FirestarG42

And he was playing crazy good


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Zvonareva retires due to injury.


MasntWii

Me: Hey Domi is playing really well. Tennis Gods: Oh no, that is not suppose to happen. Me: That's it, I convert to Tennis Satanism!


shyaminator96

Rare show of anger from iga


TCPlusSux

Actually, Iga has had fits of anger many times before. Earlier in her career before she added a psychologist to her team 🤣. https://mobile.twitter.com/datgoneit77/status/1315339524369715204?lang=en


shyaminator96

Lol I didn't know of that thanks for sharing 😆


Neverslept2mins

Lol personally I enjoy players who get emotional or show passion, obviously not over the top so that they can play the game. I think it makes them seem more human and adds character.


Puzzleheaded_Ad9691

what’d she do


shyaminator96

smacked the net with her racquet


comfortablynumb81

What happened to Thiem? He retired, but is it a severe injury?


_rob___

When I saw “walkover” for some reason I thought Mannarino retired, not Thiem. Very sad now :(


ChocolateSnowflake

We don’t know. Could be a wrist sprain. Could be worse.


comfortablynumb81

Jesus. Poor Domi.


Schlok453

I'd be shocked if he played Wimbledon


FirestarG42

Sprained his wrist badly


FirestarG42

Domi is by so far my favourite player to watch and this year has just been an absolute nightmare


FrenulumIssue

This is good news for nole... cilic now seeded


fingerdumbed

Thiem hasn’t withdrawn yet.


christophlieber

read the fucking room.


Omegatron64

Not yet. Knowing Thiem he might try to play unless he literally can't.


Ashru987

This is really not the time man.


Kiwiii_nights

Man, really hoping his run of bad luck ends soon


ChocolateSnowflake

On court interviews aren’t normally done when an opponent withdraws due to injury. Or am I imaging that unofficial code?


Rather_Dashing

That was the official code at RG this year. Which is why Djokovic didn't get interviewed after his 'walkover' Mussetti. Not sure how widespread that rule is though.


ChocolateSnowflake

Yeah maybe I’ve just got regency bias from it


aweap

I saw Putintseva give an interview when Mugu retired in Charleston, so maybe that's not true...


ChocolateSnowflake

Yeah I’m trying to think of the last retirements I’ve seen recently. Djokovic definitely didn’t have one at the French after Musetti withdrew.


Ashru987

They almost always have interviews on center court.


smalliebigs69

Iga sometimes likes going back behind her opponent too much as a tactic that she sometimes hits it right back to them


Schlok453

Just when I thought tennis was done kicking me in the nuts...


BreizhDre

If Domi gives back the US Open can he play well again ?


Schlok453

He played well at the ATP finals tbf


christophlieber

jesus, this isn‘t sounding great. the commentator on sky just said something i must‘ve missed: when domi was talking to the medical trainer guy, he said that he heard a light crack. oh boy…


ChocolateSnowflake

Hopefully just the fluid in the joint cracking. I can’t take this.


christophlieber

i freaking hope so too


comfortablynumb81

8 Deuces in this Khachanov - Lopez game!!!


chrysoberyyll

Nooooo :(


Lefuf

Man I feel so bad for the guy :( He's gonna pull out of Wimbledon isn't he


rordan

Domi :( I really hope it was just a bad tweak that'll ease up within a few days.


neyiat

Thiem is not a "good guy", he's hostile towards lower-ranked players. (go check out what he said last year about covid relief)


Rather_Dashing

Honestly I agree with Thiems comments. If he has the choice between giving money to a charity where it could save lives, or to lower ranked tennis players so they can keep playing tennis, why should he feel obligated to do the latter. If we are going to shame players for being uncharitable then we should at least be consistent. Any player with a yacht or a mansion could sell that and give the money to charity.


shandoleezarice

Do you give your coworkers part of your salary when they’re having financial hardships? Did Wimbledon cash out with their insurance and give it to the players?


Kiwiii_nights

i mean cool but we're talking about his injury rn


hopez11

I disagree with what he has said about lower ranked players, but how does that make him not a good guy?