First dovetail. Roast me.
By - LogicalConstant
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Pff. Just look at it....100% better than mine bc I haven't done one yet. So....hell, good job. Whats it for?
Just for practice. Going to try to make a box if I don't screw it up too bad.
Try to not put screws in and you already didn't screw it up! ;)
This is the way.
Kudos to you for your dad joke.
Thank you! just became a dad 4 days ago and already on fire!
You need a fire extinguisher?
Congrats!!! If you enjoy it half as much as I do, it'll be the best thing you've ever done.
Hey now, don't lie to the poor bastard lol. They don't manufacture enough drugs to make you ( not want to go to the store for a pack of smokes... and dissapear from existence) feel better about a week of no sleep topped off with an inconsolable baby that hasn't stopped crying since waking up and is now literally taking a shit so humongous and water-like in texture that they somehow filled the diaper 2.5 times over and have halfway covered themselves, you and your bed in a semi-solid paste from hell, all the while everything you do and have done is meaningless according to Mrs. Perfect-cant-do-nothing-wrong, cause you know even though you've gone above and beyond with every single thing you do just to avoid that type of flak in the first place. Your ass will always be the brave soul that only other dads will ever understand, but will happily stand by and watch you crash and burn so that they look better by comparison and might finally get a compliment or the slightest amount of recognition (which dissapears so fast you can see it flowing away from you in slow-motion) for running your ass ragged and bending ass over backwards non-stop in futile attempts to get more than 30 minutes of sleep in a day. lmfao don't fucking miss those days for even a fraction of a nanosecond 🖕👌
Katz-moses and Paul Sellers, inject their videos into your bones.
Katz-moses has some really good tips on sawing correctly, as well as the jigs he makes are worth their weight in gold. (Serious, they are only like 15 bucks too.) After you use those jigs for a little while you will find yourself reaching for them less and less.
Katz also does a good job of alternate layout methods and has good camera angles.
Paul Seller, man paul just nails it every time, it's well explained, he shows you the why/how in an easy followable manner. His camera angles aren't always as well, and some of his advice is dated, but it still works.
Personally, I use a hybrid of both guys approach, I don't saw out as much as Katz does, but the chisel approach Paul sellers does doesn't have to be the ENTIRE piece. Like I remove 3/4 of the waste with a hack saw, then I use Paul Sellers layout line then chisel approach and they turn out perfect.
Just some thoughts as you appear to be where I was like 6 months ago.
I would also add Rob Cosman
I'm assuming these are done by hand? The secret to woodworking by hand is knowing how to fix/cover up mistakes. It's going to happen. Like, here, you could try to get veneer which matches the wood, make sure the grain goes the same way, and fill the gaps. The most important thing is not to mention it to anyone. No one will notice unless they know what to look for, and at the point, they won't be able to unsee it.
Hell you got a damn good start. Good stuff, man.
Ok, fine. Your wall texturing is super uneven!
And the top down lighting for showing a product side view? Amature photography at best.
Gray is a boring color for a wall!
And his work table looks like it has been worked on before- is that paint?! On the table?!
That's another embarrassing story. The black stain is from metal dust. I was flattening the sole of my hand plane on this bench by using sand paper. I tried to sweep the metal filings off but it didn't work. Tried blowing them off, didn't work. Used a damp paper towel and it caused the metallic dust to soak down into the wood, turning it black. Fml.
Did you just create a metal/wood hybrid?
By the way, it's not a textured wall, it's the foundation in my basement. And believe me, it looks even worse in person. There's no way they were sober when they poured it.
>Ok, fine. Your wall texturing is super uneven!
Join the club! My basement walls are a mess too. A previous homeowner tried to spackle over the concrete block to "make it pretty" and they used drywall spackle, on concrete... what a mess.
Lovely dovetails by the by!
That leg on the bottom of your drawer is crooked as hell! 😁
I've seen much worse. Do more and be sure to document each one. Then upload them in order. I feel like seeing how someone progresses and grows is just as important.
That’s a great idea... (I’m just learning dovetails & fractal burning... ) 😃
If your mom was as loose as these joints your dad would’ve just pulled out so you wouldn’t be alive to disappoint me with this post. Sincerely, a guy who’s never made a dovetail in his life.
God bless you
Meredith, you've slept with so many guys you're starting to look like one.
Oscar, you’re gay
You’re fat and your heart sucks!
Get this guy a fuckin Puppers
Jesus Christ 😂🔥
Did you use literal dove tails to mark where you were going to cut?
Roast you? I’ve barely managed box joints with a router and jig - you’re way ahead of me. Great job! :)
The first time I tried dovetails I cut out the pins and left what was supposed to be the waste, so I had tails and sideways-tails. At least your joint fits together.
Lmao that's amazing
That's called advanced show face marking practice.
more like dove-FAIL lol amirite
Why roast you? You attempted something that some people can never even think of doing. Proud of you.
Because I could use a good laugh. Won't hurt my feelings.
Yeah what’s this guys problem? Being nice? Come on man.
If you could use a good laugh just look at those dovetails.... lol. Just roasting because you asked for it. But I really admire the attempt. Better than me by a lot.
I would think of doing it…with a jig
If that's your first set, then we'll done. You didn't mix up pin/tail layout or end up with "square" tails.
Constructive criticism: do pins first, then tails. Don't pare the pins, just make sure they're cut well. Then layout the tails. Cut outside of your line, then slowly pare to the line with a sharp chisel. If you cut ON the, you'll likely end up with undersized tails (i.e. gaps).
Beyond that, you've got yourself a functional set of dietaries! Believe me, it gets much better (and surprisingly quickly). One box gives you four full sets to make. Within a couple of boxes, you'll have it down pat. Keep it up!
Dovetail? More like a pigeon tail!
Nicely done! Dovetails are definitely one of those things that I've been procrastinating on trying.
This is actually my first attempt at anything related to woodworking. I spent a week trying to get my plane and chisel set up, this was the very next thing.
May was well just jump in the deep end I guess lol
When you eyeball a dovetail
That's exactly what I did
You’ve got a very good eye then!
Yeah, but he needs two.
I wouldn't trust you to cut my subway sandwich.
All jokes aside, you're a stronger person than I. My precision cuts look like a drunk Jason on Friday the 13th.
Glad it´s only the 28th tomorrow.
Honestly, pretty good. Better than my first one!
Better than my first and my current. Nice job.
Tighten up your lines. Saw big and chisel small
Tried your first dovetails on white oak!?! Elitist
Haha. Someone online recommended trying cherry or walnut. The lumber yard down the street closed after decades (covid) so I went to home depot. They didn't have cherry or walnut, so I just grabbed whatever. I worked on this dovetail for days, probably 3-5 hours when you include resharpening the chisel. The method I was using was bad too. Turns out it's not supposed to be this hard, I'm just an idiot. Picked the wrong wood, jumped into dovetails too soon, and used a very difficult method. Lesson learned.
I bet they had pine at HD. I would have started with pine. But then again I'm a cheapskate.
In hindsight, I definitely should have done that
Just chiming in on this... I took the pine route when learning dovetails. On one hand, pine is cheaper and causes less regret when you mess up, but in my experience with a harder wood, your cut lines will be more precise and you'll get a much better "feel" for how things come together.
I haven’t seen gaps that big since [redacted to comply with sub rules]! Boom, roasted.
But srsly nice job on a first attempt, and good call using a hardwood. Many people try their first with pine because it WAS cheap, but it’s so soft it often makes dovetails harder.
Can’t roast you... it looks amazing for someone whose only tools are a river rock and half a wrench!
Looks great! ....if you happen to be a baby with Parkinson’s
It's ugly but it IS a join. 😁
That’s what my instructor said about my practice welds... 😂
Wait... Is this an orthodontia reference?
If you mean a joke about teeth then yes.
You're upvoting every single comment, aren't you?
If you take the time to write a comment and you either say something nice or make me chuckle with a good burn, then you've earned an upvote
it looks so bad it looks like i did it. boom. roasted.
You probably smell bad after a few days not showering
Keep up the good work
Rustic look. Love it.
You should be in marketing.
Better than my first dovetail.
Dove tails? More like crow's feet!
Dove tails? More like whale tails ooohhhh burn. (I made a set of stringers for my porch once, never even done real woodworking... but, I know a guy who does)
Looks pretty good to me, my only advice might be to use a steak knife next time Vs the butter knife you used to cut these….
You're better at plastering than woodworking.
I bet if you blow through it, it sounds like one of those souvenir train whistles.
Jk. If that's your first, I say you done fine.
**Chandler voice** "*Could there BE any more gaps!?!*"
But seriously though, great job, really impressive for the first one. 👍
If you spent more time practicing instead of posting on here, maybe your your dovetails wouldn't look like a blind man learning to draw. Great attempt sir. I like where you're headed!!!
I've seen tighter and cleaner $7 prostitutes. I have never done a dovetail in my life, those are better than most first tries im sure
90% of woodworking is learning how to fix (hide) your mistakes. Looks great!
you better sharpen your chain saw before doing another
I was taking a hand cut dovetail class at woodcraft some years ago. The instructor had been taught by Tag Frid (old old school master). That was his response. “Excellent joint. Did you cut it with a chainsaw?”
Good job though. Hand cut dovetails take practice. Keep at it!
I've certainly seen worse first attempts. Keep practicing and nice work.
Looks about right
waaaaay better than my first that's for sure. They actually fit!
Cheers! Keep at it, good start and will only get better
Better than I could probably do.
First ones and you didnt cut the pins opposite? Are you a wizard?
Not bad for a first try. My top tip would be that your first step should be to get your wood into good shape. The right hand board looks pretty badly cupped. Getting it properly planed flat would have helped a lot.
I bought a cheap hand plane and after a week of trying to get it set up right, I kinda gave up and figured I'd try something else instead of frustrating myself anymore. Thanks for the tip.
Paul Sellers has an excellent video on how to do this with hand tools.
Came here to suggest PS. Stayed for the comments.
In all seriousness, those are better than my first few sets of router cut dovetails. A few levels beyond my capabilities.
For the roast:
Those gaps are so wide I think I might open up a clothing store there for middle class suburbanites.
I bet you make a terrible cup of tea.
Dovetails are pretty good tho!
That's pretty darned good for your first try!
You show a lot of promise. The next James Krenov, said no one ever.
Cant roast you or your work. You stepped up. DTs are like putting. Practice your technique 30 min a day for a few weeks & it all comes together. Good luck
Not bad. Make some shelves or drawers.
I like that you went with oak. I think it would be so much easier than the soft pine so many here try for their first one.
This looks like a great start.
You're now one dovetail ahead of everyone who hasn't ever tried and never will. Well done.
It’s good. Boom. Roasted.
A great start
Is that white oak? That's a rough first choice of dovetail.
Not gonna lie, it was really, really rough
Dovetails are hard, and you've got a ways to go... but it's a damn good start.
Hope my first is this good.
Good show old chap!
It's your first. These things happen. If I had a pic of all my shitty firsts I would certainly share but luckily I only take pics of the good stuff!
Better than my third one, which projects the pinboard off at 110 degrees, instead of the generally preferred 90.
Not many here will roast you for that. Glass houses and all that....
It looks nice
Generally pretty good. I've seen a lot of first attempts and this is the work of someone who was trying. Dimensions are a little uneven, but the next one will be better. Maple is a good cheap option for practice. Good luck
Great first dove tail
You will never improve. Give up. Go fishing. The hook goes in the wet thing.
Seriously. Good job. I would think Oak is as bad for being so hard and cross grained as Pine is for being soft.
I would try some Tulipwood. Maybe order online.
For first dovetail you did an excellent job. They only getting better from here. I’d say you are well ahead of the curve.
Haha, you're a beginner! and that's ok, because everyone is at some point. and these dovetails look nicer than any I've ever cobbled together.
Keep up the good work buddy!
Not bad 🥴
You'll get better and they'll get easier...
It's impossible to underestimate your skill with hand tools... 😜
Looks like a 3-fingered midget holding hands.
More like a pigeon tail
Better than mine!
Looks like shit but real good first try - and better than mine!
I did my first dovetail backwards haha
Let me just get the fuel for my flamethrower
Excellent job, especially for using your teeth! Such a dedication to the craft, sacrificing your own body and these beautiful pieces of wood. Make sure to salute as you toss it on the fire.
- another smartass who has never done dovetails
Honestly, wood glue and a sander.... I'd never know
Pffft, dont kid yourself! That looks great! I've seen dovetails with more clearance on "proffesionally" made furniture.
Better than any dovetail I could do!
Love it, let the finish fill it in and call it a day.
What'd u use to cut it? A shovel?
My first dovetail couldn even be called dovetail ... Good job
Only way it could get any worse is if I did it.
In all seriousness that is pretty good for a first attempt.
Looks like that's two of us that have never made dovetails. These look like the technique that cavemen used called 'pigeon-tailing'. Key attributes are loose fits and disproportional features due to lack of proper layout tools and knowledge.
In all seriousness, these look like they work, so good job. Your boards look flush and square enough, and it should all hold together once other elements are added.
Pfft more like a pigeon tail. Seriously though I need to get out my comfort zone and try one of these. I'd be most stoked if it came out like this
I mean, better then my first ,good job
I have a scar from my first attempt at dove tails. If you haven’t been permanently marked I think you did better than I did.
You probably should go to r/beginnerwoodworking because this place is for the big people
Should have bought Gap Insurance before you started!
Good first attempt! Practice on pine or poplar don’t waste white oak!
Cut it shorter and try again, it's still good for a first time. Dovetails take expertise.
I heard this from an experiecned woodworker and it's stuck with me ever since..... "spackle and paint, make me the carpenter I ain't". Better than most for a first attempt I can tell you that.
Not bad for a first time mine for sure looked way worse 😅
Honestly looks good its all about the strength of the hold.
It doesn't fit very well! You suck!
This is what it looks like when doves cry.
(I never tried a dove tail)
Can’t roast, it’s pretty good! I’m sure you’ve learned a lot and it’ll be even better next time.
More gaps than the Carolina Panthers defensive front line!... But they're pros, and this is your first job and it's not half bad!
Plane, fill (sawdust mixed with glue), and sand. Not bad on your first try though.
Eh, I've seen worse on "production" furniture that was sold for $14,000 and the owner was super enthused about it (granted they did try to hide their sins with copious amounts of shitty wood filler which didn't really help but confused the uneducated).
A few wedges driven in and planed smooth.. who would know.
Do learn how to tune and sharpen the handplane.. although some of the really crappy ones are damn near irredeemable... Yard and estate sales are your friend.
I haven't seen wood handled so poorly since the Pain Olympics video.
(No one look that up - trust me)
Dang...Brings back memories. Nice roast.
Better than my first one where the pins snapped off as I put it together
When I was a young apprentice, my master always told me: follow your line, never go past your line! So that’s basically it, learn to come as close to your line as possible. And be accurate while scribing the line. Other than that, looks like you did a great job!
More cockeyed than $hit!
Pretty good actually
Ok, this is not looking good, but be reassured: it’s probably mostly due to the wood.
I struggle so much when I tried the first times because I didn’t want to use the fine stuff just for practice. The problem is: bad wood is bad wood and it’s impossible to work correctly.
Wow you managed to take a technique designed to strengthen joints turn it on its head and make the bottom chip-ready. It's okay, looks don't matter! The big giant one will hold it together just fine.
Yo dovetail so wack, it’d get any duck to quack 🦆
Kk it’s really good lol
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Or so they say. Keep at it!
You did good. No roasting needed
Looks like a good start. As a craftsman (I’m not a carpenter) I would say try to remember you can always cut more, but never less once you’ve gone too far. In other words, leave just a little extra base material to start and then recheck your measurements once you are close.
Sweet looking tails
Great job more you do better and easier they become
I think you’re doing great and every attempt you make will get you closer to your dovetail goal my woodworking king
Did you used to be a British dentist?
I think it’s a great first try. It takes a few to get them tight. Just keep pushing along and practicing.
Who did this, Hellen Keller?
No woodworker roasts another over their dovetails. The dovetails do a fine enough job roasting the woodworker all by themselves.
Unless of course you're a freak and aren't constantly belittling yourself over the flaws in your own work.
Good thing it's soft wood otherwise you would be able to cram those pieces together! Haha. :) Nice work for your first.
It's oak haha
Even more impressed now.
I only chose oak because I'm an idiot, don't be impressed lol
There's a downside to learning on softwood - it's harder to chisel out waste cleanly unless your chisels are ludicrous sharp.
Jk btw. I’ve never even attempted a dovetail.
So what kind of seasoning would you like??? Mix of herbs and some other spices, maybe some aromatics and what not... should we wrap your kankles in aluminum foil so they don't burn in the oven??? Some farce maybe??? We'll need some strings if so...
Why roast a near perfect dovetail?